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Warrtalon
04-27-2006, 09:42 PM
I didn't see this type of stuff mentioned in the TOC of the 2006 TT rules. Where would I find what is required for TT in terms of safety equipment and clothing?

The reason why I'm asking is because NHRA just changed their rules this year and are requiring any turbocharged/supercharged/nitroused car that runs 10.99-13.99 to wear a SFI 3.2A/1 jacket. I was about to buy one, but then I thought I should make sure that whatever jacket I get will also meet any requirements there are for TT.

Anyone?

RichV
04-28-2006, 06:22 AM
Yea, I need to get the jacket as well. I was just scoping Jegs and found the G-Force jackets for $50. They meet the SFI for NHRA. Will this jacket meet requirements for NASA as well? If any?

There are typicaly 2 variations, a nomex and a proban. Will either meet NASA criteria?

JLMounce
04-28-2006, 07:05 AM
WTF, when did that rule come out?

Is that even for stock cars with power adders from the factory? There's quite a few power adder cars from the factory (03+ Cobra, EVO, STi etc) that run within those times bone stock.

bpanther
04-28-2006, 09:21 AM
I didn't see this type of stuff mentioned in the TOC of the 2006 TT rules. Where would I find what is required for TT in terms of safety equipment and clothing?

All safety rules fall back to the NASA CCR. TT is under HPDE which does not require a "fire jacket". Of course if you want to wear it, we would back you decision.


Why don't you just go all the way and get a full suit that will protect your legs as well? You'll be able to use it well into a racing career if you get it to meet wheel to wheel racing specs.

dmdirks
04-28-2006, 09:23 AM
I believe the driver safety requirements for TT are the same as HPDE, which are listed in section 11.3 of the CCR.

Whoops! Looks like Dave beat me to it!

Warrtalon
04-28-2006, 02:25 PM
Ok, good, so any jacket I get is fine, since no jacket is required. Funny how NHRA made this new requirement this year for a 12/13-sec burst in nearly-stock cars. It makes no sense to me, but if Bandimere enforces, then I have little choice. I don't plan to get a full suit yet, because I don't want to wear that whole thing in the middle of the summer just for drag racing or HPDEs.

Anyway, here is the actual rule from the book, JLMounce:

"10.00 (6.40) and slower; all E.T. non-OEM supercharged, non-OEM turbocharged, or nitrous-equipped cars with an OEM or .024-inch steel firewall:Jacket meeting SFI spec 3.2A/1 mandatory"

Now, to me, that means that stock turbo'd and S/C'd cars like the Evo, STi, AND Cobra who have OEM power adders and easily run faster than 13.99 do NOT require a jacket, but the folks at Bandimere said:

"Anything going 13.99 to 10.99 with any kind of power adder (OEM or not) Must have a 3.2A/1 jacket"

I took their word for it until I saw the official rule, which is not the same as what Bandimere is saying. I don't know if they're interpreting it poorly or just making their own rule. I will be there Saturday with my stock turbo'd Evo and no jacket, so we'll see what happens.

jweiss
04-28-2006, 05:14 PM
"It's all fun and games until you catch on fire." :p

Seriously, I have to agree with Dave (bpanther) - if you're gonna buy something, get a driving suit. I don't understand how any organization could be concerned about fire safety and then suggest that a "jacket" is the appropriate prevention.

I like my torso AND legs rare, please.

Cheers,

Jeff

Snymo
05-03-2006, 01:18 PM
I will be there Saturday with my stock turbo'd Evo and no jacket, so we'll see what happens.

So what's the verdict? Did you need a jacket or not? I might be going out on Sunday for the Mopar at Thunder Mountain with the SRT Club so it would be nice to let others know if it's needed.

Rick

Warrtalon
05-03-2006, 04:00 PM
So what's the verdict? Did you need a jacket or not? I might be going out on Sunday for the Mopar at Thunder Mountain with the SRT Club so it would be nice to let others know if it's needed.

Rick

I race all day with no hassle and was running consistent mid-12s with a best of 12.30. During tech, they didn't ask, and no one said anything at the staging area right before the burnout box. I even took off my fleece pullover when it got warm and had a short-sleeve t-shirt only, but they still didn't say anything.

So, it doesn't seem to be a problem, but the person from Bandi on CRN did NOT respond to my direct inquiry about the interpretation of the rule. The person originally said that the jacket was required even for an OEM turbo, but then didn't answer when I quoted the actual rule that states otherwise.

I don't think you'll have a problem, but it would be nice to take the quoted text I provided and either have it printed out or memorized. As long as you have an OEM turbo without N2O, you aren't required to have a jacket.