Whats Good CoilOver Kit for the fox Body

[Mikecolosprings]

What Is A good Coilover kit for an 88 stang lX?
I will use it for Daily Driver/Road Racer/Drifter

[NASACastang]

Check out Maximum Motorsports. They have some of the best parts for Mustangs. Both daily drivers and track cars. They are not the cheapest, but then again quality cost money. Then again they are not the most expensive either. Griggs has some decent stuff too, but I am more of a Maximum Fan myself.

[Mikecolosprings]

Yeah There Kinda Expensive But I think Suspension is a big Upgrade you can do to handaling. Like$800 without Shocks

What is a Very Good Daily/Track driver Shock/Strut?

[MHISSTC]

A good daily-driver/track shock/strut is not in the same league as a coilover suspension. If you're going with a good quality coilover setup, you'll want to maximize the benefits and go with a top quality strut/shock like a koni.

[Mikecolosprings]

Nah I meant I'm going to get the Coilover conversion Kit from Maximum, But they don't come with Shocks/Struts
I can't reall afford the Konis but I may spring for them.

[MHISSTC]

As long as what you have is in good/safe condition, try it out first, then see where the upgrades need to be. It may be the "nut behind the wheel". :rolleyes:

[JLMounce]

Bilstein HD's valved for your spring rate. Maximum Motorsports can do this for you.

In fact why nto just give Maximum Motorsports a call? Regardless of whether you're buying from them, they are extremely helpfull.

[Mikecolosprings]

Well I'm going to be doing some drifting so I need the Adjustablity of coilovers, I'm going to get the KYB AGX's
This NUT:D Is a NUT:eek:

[MHISSTC]

I'm not well versed in needs of a drifting car. Why do you need the adjustability of coilovers for it?

[Mikecolosprings]

Well Drift Suspensions Need to be very Stiff So they Slide. But I need the Adjustability because it will be a Daily Driver/Weekend Tracker/Weekend Drifter

[JLMounce]

I'm not well versed in needs of a drifting car. Why do you need the adjustability of coilovers for it?


What I picture is a setup designed to oversteer easily. Soft in the front, stiff in the rear.

[MHISSTC]

You mean specifically that the back end has to slide, right?

Oversteer.

Wouldn't an easy way to do that be to use a Trac-Loc axle with a beefier stabilizer bar and one of the smaller stock sized all season tires in the rear with a larger stickier tire in the front with no front stabilizer bar? How about a 185/70R14 rear and 245/45R17 front? Then when you are ready to head home, take off the rear bar (or swap it with a smaller one), reinstall the front bar, and reinstall the 245/45R17 rear tires/wheels.

[Mikecolosprings]

You mean specifically that the back end has to slide, right?

Oversteer.

Wouldn't an easy way to do that be to use a Trac-Loc axle with a beefier stabilizer bar and one of the smaller stock sized all season tires in the rear with a larger stickier tire in the front with no front stabilizer bar? How about a 185/70R14 rear and 245/45R17 front? Then when you are ready to head home, take off the rear bar (or swap it with a smaller one), reinstall the front bar, and reinstall the 245/45R17 rear tires/wheels.

All Very good suggestions, Basically I'm Thinking about getting the Adjustable Sway bar from Steeda(You put it on with the stock one still on).
Not sure about the front bar.
Also I need the Adjustability of the Coilovers to lower it Pretty low to help reduce roll center.

[JLMounce]

THe problem with that is your going to have a heavier bar in the back (adjustable or not) than you do in the front. This is fine for drifting but for open tracking and especially street use you probably want your car to be neutral or tend towards understeer.

I'd almost go with a set of adjustable shocks over the sway bar. Pick your springs and get adjustable shocks. You can then dial in your damping and control wheel rate depending on what you're doing that day. I definitely wouldn't put a rear sta-bar on your car without upgrading the front though. That's got erratic handling written all over it.

[Mikecolosprings]

Sounds good
So I'll get The Adjustable Shocks, Coilover conversion kit(any spring rate i want), Caster Camber Plates to start

[MHISSTC]

Also I need the Adjustability of the Coilovers to lower it Pretty low to help reduce roll center.

Why? You do know a lower ride height is not the only variable that determines a lower roll center, right?

You have been receiving a lot of good advice from several folks in multiple threads that seem to be loosely tied together on this forum. However, it is starting to look like you lack a clear focus and are flooding this forum with questions in an attempt to have other folks make up your mind for you. You have a lot of posts for a short-timer on this forum. You also appear quick to make general decisions based on what folks are telling you without any specifics or reasons why.

Didn't you post that you wanted to get rid of your Mustang in a couple months? Why would you upgrade your suspension in probably one of the most expensive manners possible if you are going to sell it followed by a statement that you don't want to do anything too expensive? If you've decided to stick with the Mustang instead of the DSM product, what made you change your mind? What adjustable shocks are you considering and why? No, not just any spring rate you want will do what you want it to do. Which CC plates are you looking at and why? On the surface there may not seem to be any big differences since, in general, they are all designed to do the same thing...locate the top of the strut at the top of the strut tower. If you look more closely at the details, there are big differences to be found.

Many of us have done, and enjoy doing, the hard research it takes to come up with a goal and to figure out the setup it takes to meet that goal. We are also willing to share much of what we have learned along the way to help others avoid some of the problems we have encountered in order to have others enjoy their cars as much as possible and to be able to come out and play with us.

However, as I have continued to read and respond to your queries openly, I can't help but feel that other contributors are becoming a little frustrated and your free ride is about to end.

Here is my suggestion:
Start doing some of the hard research on your own so that you may also contribute to the knowledge base on this forum. That doesn't mean memorizing advertising claims. That means decide which car you want with solid reasons why. Come up with a goal for your project. Read some books. Lurk on multiple forums to see what questions others with similar goals are asking and advice others are giving. Use the Seach funtion available on all of these different forums. Chances are your question is nothing new and has been asked 20 different times in 20 different ways before. Find some manufacturers who make products that will help you acheive your goal. Make some phone calls to the manufacturers and ask them some very specific and tough questions...not just "Which shocks/struts should I buy if I want to go drifting in my Mustang?" After you've done all this, if you still have more questions, then by all means, let us know what you've found out and what you still need help with. I'm sure we will all still be here ready to help you out.

Please don't take this as me "jumping down your throat" because I think you're asking too many questions. On the contrary, I think your questions have indicated an enthusiasm and willingness to seek information in order to made thoughtful decisions. Consider this a firm yet gentle nudge in an attempt to get you headed in the right direction to ask the RIGHT QUESTIONS before someone else with a little less tact feels the time is right to go ahead and "jump down your throat".

[Mikecolosprings]

QUOTE]Didn't you post that you wanted to get rid of your Mustang in a couple months?
Yes I did say That I want To get Rid of it, and Still do.

Why would you upgrade your suspension in probably one of the most expensive manners possible if you are going to sell it followed by a statement that you don't want to do anything too expensive?
I'm not going to upgrade it, I was Checking some things out to decide If I really want to get rid of it.

No, not just any spring rate you want will do what you want it to do.[
When I said Any spring rate I want I meant The package will Include Whatever Rate I requested.

However, as I have continued to read and respond to your queries openly, I can't help but feel that other contributors are becoming a little frustrated and your free ride is about to end.
My Free Ride is over! If you don't want to Help me with your knowledge then dont reply, There is a Tech Section for a reason

not just "Which shocks/struts should I buy if I want to go drifting in my Mustang?"
I never asked that, I asked What is a good Coilover Kit, Because I didn't know who made them, i stated that I was going to do some drifting So people would know what i was trying to Acompish.


Please don't take this as me "jumping down your throat"
I don't, But Next Time your in a BAD mood Don't Reply

But all in all I understand What you mean about making Descisions from just what people tell me. I was just to Tired to dissaree(I don't always like to type)

[JLMounce]

Whoa slow down turbo.

Scott is just trying to help you out here. The fact is that most of the stuff you're asking is readily available information through many vendors. There's so many different ways you could setup a suspension that it's hard for 1 person to give a definitive answer.

Now, there's not a huge knowledge base build up on this sight hwoever a simple search over on the big forums will yield quite a bit of information. Information based on product testing by those who use it.

I've learned what I know about cars by taking the initiative to seeking out the information myself. I ask questions where necessary to clarify an issue. Not to say you shouldn't ask questions, but they should have some thought behind them.

Instead of "what the best coil-over kit" (very general) how about "I've noticed that certain coil-over kits utilize different shocks, some adjustable some not. Does anybody have experiance between the differeing shocks? For an application that crosses road racing and drifting do I need to adjustability or is a non-adjustable shock going to work for me?" (much more in depth).

This is also information that you can readily get from many of the vendors. One of the best companies out there for mustang suspension is Maximum Motorsports. The nice thing about this company is that even if you're not buying anything they will take the time to speak with you about what you're trying to do and what you need to get there.

I suggest giving them a call.

[Mikecolosprings]

a simple search over on the big forums will yield quite a bit of information.

I UnderStand, I just Think It is nice to get Info From people I might be Racing with, but i guess I'll do a search Every time I have A question, Because if you think about it, almost every question has been answered Somtime-Somwhere

[Evil86Saleen]

LOL. Someone isnt going to make to many firends around here.

Scotts advice is very sound and something that you should take to heart.

The SEARCH button is your friend. Hit the big sites like corrral, cornercarvers, turbo ford etc and use the search function.

Then if something doesnt make sense to you or you need clarity ask the questions.

Research research research.. and more research.

did I mentiuon doing research. :D

kyle

[Mikecolosprings]

LOL. Someone isnt going to make to many firends around here.

Sorry Scott If I was an @sshole in my reply.
But look at from my point of View.

I'm a little upset, my insurance Company says they Didn't get my payment

So Again I apologize If I was an Ass

[MHISSTC]

No harm, no foul. You'll find I'm one of the least offendable persons you'll ever come across.

I'd like to make one more suggestion. Even if your situation doesn't currently allow for you to have a car on the track, show up to an event anyway and earn some track credit! Volunteer your time to help out with the event. While you're doing that you can check out different cars, different setups, and ask questions. Bring an approved helmet and find someone who can carry passengers who is willing to take you along for a ride. I haven't run across anyone yet who isn't willing to tell you more than you really want to know about their car. There is a lot to be learned just by soaking up some of the atmosphere.

[Mikecolosprings]

I would love to go to Lajuanta but my car is not insured, and I can't take a chance of getting my liscence taken away(Looking forward to the future). I have nobody to barrow a car from.
I Have Already PM'd Dave to cancel my Volounteer Rigistration.