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docwyte

08-11-2010, 08:11 AM

Heart transplant has begun.

Out with the iron block, 2.5l turbo motor, in with a 5.7l all aluminum V8.

Other TTA drivers, begin to tremble in fear! :p

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Wyte944022.jpg

hammerevo

08-11-2010, 08:55 AM

The trembling has started. Sure that engine swap wont move you up to TTS?

Robbie

08-11-2010, 10:18 AM

I'm pretty sure the 944 motor is all aluminum also. Good luck with the LS1 swap! Should be fun!

docwyte

08-11-2010, 11:58 AM

Ha, in your dreams Evo boy! :D

It's all power to weight and I'm making sure I don't exceed the limits for TTA.

944 block is iron, but the LS motor is larger than the 944 one. Difference in weight is the LS weighs 50 lbs *less* than the 944!

chris_venturini

08-11-2010, 01:30 PM

Nice, will sound mean with a V8.
I'll take that "iron" block off your hands. ;)

docwyte

08-11-2010, 01:33 PM

You want it Chris? Just the block, or crank/pistons too?

hammerevo

08-12-2010, 01:30 PM

docwyte

08-12-2010, 03:23 PM

Vorsche? Still working on that. Hopefully have the car back in the next 3 weeks or so.

chris_venturini

08-12-2010, 03:56 PM

If you really don't want it, my cylinder walls have seen better days.

docwyte

08-13-2010, 12:37 PM

More progress made. Motor has been yanked out of the donor car and is on an engine stand getting cleaned up. A mild cam will get installed. All aluminum V8 goodness!

My car is getting stripped, motor should be coming out of it today.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/LS1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/LS12.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/LS11.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/951stripped.jpg

hammerevo

08-13-2010, 02:01 PM

The frankenvorsche is coming alive!

docwyte

08-13-2010, 03:03 PM

Yeah baby!

docwyte

08-14-2010, 10:20 AM

More progress made, stock motor is out.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/944motorout1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/944motorout2.jpg

JScheier

08-14-2010, 04:25 PM

Are they going to pressure wash the 'turbo-juice' off of the chassis before they put the new lump in?

MHISSTC

08-14-2010, 04:39 PM

Porschrolet LS944

Do we call Josh a Knuckle-Eater or a Cake-dragger?

:confused:

docwyte

08-14-2010, 05:03 PM

Yep, it's going to get pressure washed.

Well, in the Axis v Allies, I'm gonna be Switzerland...

docwyte

08-17-2010, 03:55 PM

Ordered a bunch of stuff today, autometer water temp gauge, oil cooler, Turn 1 power steering pump and hood pins.

Here's the clean pic...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/clean951.jpg

docwyte

08-24-2010, 10:46 PM

Progress! Motor has been test fit with the headers and bell housing. Headers and bell housing fit great! The oil pan arrived late today, it'll get test fit tomorrow...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/JoshWytemotorinstalled7.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/JoshWytemotorinstalled6.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/JoshWytemotorinstalled5.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/JoshWytemotorinstalled4.jpg

ker

08-25-2010, 12:39 AM

looking good josh.

you're doing some pretty quick work there.

raybob9289

08-25-2010, 06:59 AM

Which oilpan do you use F-bod, Vette, Caddy???

docwyte

08-25-2010, 07:30 AM

Depends on whether I want to run the factory cross member or not. Going to be trying in some aftermarket oil pans today to see if they'll fit around the factory cross member...

docwyte

08-26-2010, 04:16 PM

More pics, exhaust is mocked up. Just need to get the X-joint in it, final welding on the exhaust done and pick some exhaust tips...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/exhaustport007.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/exhaustport008.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/exhaustport009.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/exhaustport012.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/exhaustport010.jpg

Coloradomark

08-29-2010, 05:24 PM

looking good josh.

you're doing some pretty quick work there.

only with his credit cards

JScheier

08-29-2010, 06:37 PM

Josh, is the rear half-shaft going to clear the muffler at full droop? Looks like the inner tubing will, but the outer may not.

Looks pretty good!

docwyte

08-30-2010, 07:21 AM

I wish my credit cards. Been funding out of cash unfortunately, but luckily have paid for 2/3rds of the cost by selling parts off the car I no longer needed.

I'll check on the exhaust, but that's the factory placement, so it should be ok.

hammerevo

09-01-2010, 01:19 PM

How's it looking? Will you be running TTA at Pueblo?

docwyte

09-01-2010, 01:33 PM

In a holding pattern waiting for the headers to return (we put smog pump stuff on them, then sent them back for final welding and coating), oil pan and cam to show.

Then the motor can be put in, plumbed etc. It should be up and running in a week.

Plan is to fly down there (texas) on Sept 17th, get the car, take it to Texas Motorsports Ranch on Sept 18th and shake it down.

If it's all good it'll go on a truck back here to me. If not, the shop will address the issues then send it up to me.

Should be a go for PMP!

docwyte

09-03-2010, 04:38 PM

Well, the cam, valve springs, pushrods and timing chain arrived today. Finally!

The motor can go into the car permenantly now. Still waiting on the headers to get back from coating/final welding and the oil pan. Both are on their way, I was hoping they'd arrive today so the shop would have everything.

At least with the motor built and in the car the wiring harness can be done, brakes can be done, AC can be done, etc, etc...

docwyte

09-08-2010, 02:59 PM

Cam, valve springs, push rods and double timing chain have been installed.

Motor is ready to go in permenantly.

Special Ed GT

09-09-2010, 09:25 AM

Can't wait to see it, Josh!

docwyte

09-10-2010, 06:50 AM

Update! Motor is put together and should be going in the car soon. Pics below! I went with a double roller timing chain while the engine was out too.
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http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Complete_engine_045.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Complete_engine_043.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Complete_engine_026.jpg

delirium45

09-10-2010, 08:53 AM

when do you head to TX for testing ?

docwyte

09-13-2010, 06:57 AM

With any luck (ha!) I'll head down there on Sept 24 and hit the track Sept 25th.

delirium45

09-13-2010, 11:42 AM

hmmm... well good luck.
hope you can get it turned around and back up here two weeks later for the Pueblo event.

docwyte

09-14-2010, 08:44 AM

Yeah, me too. Motor is permenantly installed in the bay, everything up top (wiring, AC, brakes, hydroboost) is getting done.

Oil pan is here and fits, so oil cooler, remote oil filter, lines etc are getting plumbed.

Last thing is the exhaust, get it tuned and drive it some.

docwyte

09-17-2010, 11:17 PM

Motor is permenantly installed in the bay. Most of the wiring is connected. Fuel hoses are done. Oil cooler and PS cooler are mounted, hydroboost brakes mounted.

Will hopefully get pics up tomorrow.

docwyte

09-22-2010, 07:33 AM

Here are some pics of the progress so far. Today he's planning on plumbing the PS cooler, hydroboosted master cylinder, heater hoses, radiator hoses, AC lines, oil cooler and oil filter relocation, etc.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/944LS13.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/944LS11.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/944LS14.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/944LS15.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/944LS12.jpg

docwyte

09-29-2010, 07:04 PM

More progress. Oil lines between the oil cooler, pan and filter relocation are done. Exhaust is completely done. You can also see the scoops used for the brake cooling ducts.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Exhaustandhosesd024.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Exhaustandhosesd025.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Exhaustandhosesd023.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Exhaustandhosesd022.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Exhaustandhosesd021.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Exhaustandhosesd020.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Exhaustandhosesd018.jpg

ker

09-29-2010, 07:14 PM

nice progress josh.

so what class(es) will you be running in (so i can change mine to some where else ;) )

docwyte

09-29-2010, 07:24 PM

Setting it up for TTS. I can make a maximum of 391rwhp which shouldn't be very hard for this motor to do.

Maximum for TTA was 368rwhp I think and that would mean detuning the motor, so I decided to bump up a class...

ker

09-29-2010, 07:36 PM

Special Ed GT

09-29-2010, 09:52 PM

Very cool, Josh!

docwyte

10-03-2010, 08:02 PM

It runs!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGdUEXN8a2s&feature=player_embedded

ker

10-03-2010, 08:11 PM

nothing like the sound of a good ole american v8 - but it looks funny ;)

95sprtcpedrvr

10-03-2010, 09:05 PM

My first startup and run video was better! :p I've also driven my car. :D

Any hoo, it sure does sound nice. Can't wait to see on the track. So I take it no shake down and no appearance at the last event?

docwyte

10-03-2010, 09:55 PM

Yeah, but mine sounds a whole lot cooler! :D

I hope to make the event this coming weekend, but that's entirely dependent on whether the shop can log enough mileage on the car to properly shake it down.

If not, I'm leaving the car with them until they feel it's ready to come home to me.

fhudsonjr

10-03-2010, 10:03 PM

Nothing better than the sound of a V8...no matter what's it in.

Shawn Graham

10-04-2010, 04:52 PM

There is no better place than the track to shake down a car! I put a new crate motor in my car and went Nats. Bring your car to Pueblo this week end everyone wants to see it.

docwyte

10-04-2010, 04:55 PM

I agree, but the shop is in Texas. I don't want to bring the car up here prematurely. If I do and there's an serious issue, I'll have to pay to ship it back down to Texas, which I don't want to do.

Bottoz

10-04-2010, 04:56 PM

docwyte

10-04-2010, 07:52 PM

The shop tied up all the little things today. All that remains is getting the tune done and fabb'ing the A/C lines and filling it with r134a.

Here are pics of the finished product.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Finalphotos002.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Finalphotos004.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Finalphotos005.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Finalphotos007.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/Finalphotos006.jpg

hammerevo

10-05-2010, 04:50 PM

Looks awesome. Can't wait to see FrankenVorsche.

docwyte

10-05-2010, 06:18 PM

Base (road) tune done today. A/C lines and oil catch can going in tomorrow. Hopefully will get on the dyno tomorrow for the fine tune.

If all goes well I should have the car late Thursday night or Friday morning and I'll be at Pueblo!

95sprtcpedrvr

10-05-2010, 06:49 PM

A/C?!?! What do you need that for???

docwyte

10-05-2010, 07:16 PM

Hell yeah I'm keeping A/C! I don't tow the car to the track so there's no way I'm driving to Hastings or miller in the middle of summer

docwyte

10-07-2010, 02:54 PM

Doh, small set back yesterday. Steering shaft U joint broke!

Definitely won't have the car ready for this weekend at PMP. :(

On the flip side this does give the shop plenty of time to do enough mileage on the car to properly shake out any little problems.

G-Man

10-07-2010, 09:07 PM

Sorry about the setback. I was really looking forward to seeing your car.

delirium45

10-07-2010, 10:47 PM

did the u-joint break as a result of bad location/angle, or was it just a mistake ?

ditto Geremy's comment...

docwyte

10-08-2010, 10:11 AM

Due to wear and age apparently. I should have the car middle to end of next week and plan on hitting the Oct 23rd open day at HPR with it.

docwyte

10-13-2010, 09:46 PM

Well, the car is wrapped up and should be getting loaded on the trailer tomorrow morning to come up to me. I should have it Friday.

I have some news that'll probably make some of you a little unhappy. The car made less horsepower than I was expecting. While I could look at that as a bad thing, the flip side is I'll be in a lower class than I expected.

I thought I was going to be in TTS, now it looks like I may be in TTA! I looked at the points sheet and the power to weight and it's definitely TTA.

hammerevo

10-14-2010, 11:07 AM

That makes me happy. Maybe I will stay in A then???? Who knows. Sounds like S might have quite a few more people next year, in which case I will switch to E85 and throw 275s on my baby... We'll see which class ends up bigger.

docwyte

10-14-2010, 11:21 AM

You should be able to run 275's in TTA. The base tire size for TTA is 295. Unless you're a TTB car and points have taken you to TTA and you don't have the space with points to run a 275...

delirium45

10-14-2010, 11:27 AM

the latter...

hammerevo

10-14-2010, 11:30 AM

You should be able to run 275's in TTA. The base tire size for TTA is 295. Unless you're a TTB car and points have taken you to TTA and you don't have the space with points to run a 275...

Correct on the 2nd one. I am a base TTB* (265s). Points take me to the top of TTA, 275s will put me over. I am getting -1 for running 255s right now.

docwyte

10-14-2010, 11:36 AM

Figures. Why not stay in TTA and play? I think the only way I'll be in TTS is if I totally gut the car. As it is I can remove 200 lbs from it and still be in TTA.

So the plan is to get a lightweight battery, fiberglass hood, remove the rear seat and hatch carpet and not run that much fuel.

That should get me close...

Car is on the trailer, should have it tomorrow morning!

hammerevo

10-14-2010, 12:16 PM

My issue right now is I replaced my stock air dam with an aftermarket air dam, according to the points sheet I have to take 3 points. I would have to get the TT director to approve it, otherwise it would bump me up to S. We'll see.

Sounds like you have some room to play. I may be heading out to HPR on the 23rd as well, I would like to check out the monster.

Figures. Why not stay in TTA and play? I think the only way I'll be in TTS is if I totally gut the car. As it is I can remove 200 lbs from it and still be in TTA.

So the plan is to get a lightweight battery, fiberglass hood, remove the rear seat and hatch carpet and not run that much fuel.

That should get me close...

Car is on the trailer, should have it tomorrow morning!

docwyte

10-14-2010, 02:49 PM

Yup, I can either add more power and stay around the same weight, or remove weight.

I'll have to see which is easier and cheaper to do. If I can find a set of good aftermarket heads for cheap, I may add power...

I should be at that HPR October 23rd track day...

docwyte

10-15-2010, 02:08 PM

It's HOME! In my garage!

Videos upcoming, it sounds completely badass!

95sprtcpedrvr

10-17-2010, 08:52 AM

Sooooo? Where are the videos?

docwyte

10-17-2010, 08:55 AM

My folks are in town this weekend, I'm trying to get some videos shot.

docwyte

12-03-2010, 09:19 PM

Had the car at MAC tonight for a tune. The tune that was on the car wasn't all that good and wasn't safe. We made the same power, but with a much safer tune.

Made about 336rwhp and 342ft lbs at the wheels. Plan is to get a different cam and that should maximize power at around 370ish rwhp for TTA.

ar design

12-30-2010, 10:09 AM

Very nice ;)

docwyte

12-30-2010, 11:41 AM

Have a new cam coming, once Comp Cams comes back from "vacation" and grinds it for me.

Also playing with getting the k&n air intake on, thought I wasn't going to have to cut anything, but ran into some clearance issues.

I'm going to have to tuck the MAF under the header panel space, as if it's further upstream it either hits the headlight opener bar, or the hood can't close.

So I'm going to cut away one of the header support struts and then use a small length of pipe to extend the intake so it'll reach the throttle body.

Then back to MAC for a retune and dyno.