Practice what you preach.

[Evil86Saleen]

With all of the global warming bS floating around I found this interesting.


Just shining a little sun on the truth...
A Story of Two Houses



HOUSE # 1:

A 20-room mansion (not including 8 bathrooms) heated by natural
gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all heated
by gas. In ONE MONTH ALONE this mansion consumes more energy than the
average American household in an ENTIRE YEAR. The average bill for
electricity and natural gas runs over $2, 400.00 per month. In natural gas
alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American
Home. This house is not in the northern or Midwestern "snow belt ." It's in the South.

HOUSE # 2:

Designed by an architecture professor, this house incorporates
every "green" feature current home cons truction can provide. The
house contains only 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms) and is nestled on arid-high
prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds
geothermal heat pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the
ground. The water (usually 67 degrees F.) heats the house in winter and
cools it in summer. The system uses no fossil fuels--such as oil or natural
gas--and it consumes 25% of the electricity required for a conventional
heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a
25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and
toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The
collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Flowers and
shrubs native to the area blend the property into the surrounding rural landscape.

ANSWERS:
HOUSE # 1 is outside of Nashville, Tennessee. It is the abode of
that renowned environmentalist (and filmmaker), Dr. Al Gore.

HOUSE # 2 is on a ranch near Crawford, Texas. It is the pr ivate
residence of the President of the United States, George W. Bush.

So whose house is gentler on the environment?
Yet another story you WON'T hear on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC or read about in the New York Times or the Washington Post. Indeed, for Dr. Gore, it's truly "an inconvenient truth"!!

later

kyle

[chris_venturini]

did you get that in a chain email?

[Evil86Saleen]

nah.

I got it off of Reef Central. The guy working next to me is a saltwater fish freak and is always trading stuff on that board.

kyle

[Weston]

It seems to be true... http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

[chris_venturini]

hah, funny stuff
straight from snopes
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

[chris_venturini]

dangit weston shouldnt have read the whole article before posting

[Evil86Saleen]

Cool. The guy that posted it is a Denver small business owner and he has never steered me in the wrong direction.

That snopes site is pretty cool.

kyle

[leggwork]

I've heard the gore story on the news before. He claims that he offsets the environmental damage by purchasing "carbon credits" - there are companies now that you can pay to plant trees,etc. to offset the pollution that you create. Whatever allows them to sleep at night, I guess...

snopes.com is definitely cool - however, I can't get my father-in-law to check it first before forwarding on every email he gets to 30 of his friends...
bruce

(we should avoid getting too political on this forum...)

[raybob9289]

Right on W!!!!!
Kyle, Cool post!
Dude is right about Politics.
You don't want to get me started on the wacky left fringe. :D

[MattB]

kind of old news...

Its the kind of embarrassment you get for marrying a billionaire... wish I had those problems :)

[ShadowLight]

That's pretty interesting

[RichV]

I've heard the gore story on the news before. He claims that he offsets the environmental damage by purchasing "carbon credits" - there are companies now that you can pay to plant trees,etc. to offset the pollution that you create. Whatever allows them to sleep at night, I guess...

snopes.com is definitely cool - however, I can't get my father-in-law to check it first before forwarding on every email he gets to 30 of his friends...
bruce

(we should avoid getting too political on this forum...)

http://www.conservation.org/xp/CIWEB/programs/climatechange/carboncalculator.xml?CMP=KNC-calc0706&gclid=CP6csI_bzIsCFQkjWAodmV9uGw

click on 'begin calculation'. I need $181/year to be 'green'!!

[raybob9289]

I am all for Global Warming, Matter of fact I am typing with one hand and spaying CFC hairspray with the other while my Duramax has been idling in the driveway for 4 hours.
If I had my way we would be growin Oranges in Alaska.
Bring it on, I got lots of short pants!!!! :D

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6651/rethereamb2.th.gif

[ShadowLight]

I want a calculator to see how many Toyota Prius it would take to equal the damage my cat-less Trans Am is doing to the world.

[dfezz12]

Cool Pic Raybob - little Dave comes home all the time and tells me how his teachers pollute his head with how we are all going to burn up and die. He now knows better and challenges the idoit. Love to go do a monster truck on his Prius with my Carb spitting Mega Cab Dodge.:eek:

[leggwork]

I said earlier to avoid getting too political, but I can't resist posting this

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=the+great+swindle

pretty fascinating, follow the money...
cheers,
bruce

[chris_venturini]

rebuttal to that rebuttal
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656640542976216573&q=the+great+swindle

[leggwork]

yeah, I saw that last night also - he makes some good points but I fell asleep listening to him...

rebuttal to that rebuttal
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656640542976216573&q=the+great+swindle

[chris_venturini]

after watching both of them i came to the conclusion that, i don't care, and having to pay for emission is dumb. so im deleting the cat on all of my cars out of spite

[Evil86Saleen]

:D :D :D

kyle

[Weston]

after watching both of them i came to the conclusion that, i don't care, and having to pay for emission is dumb. so im deleting the cat on all of my cars out of spite

I'm sure pollution is having a pretty negative effect on the world, but I also have a feeling that we'll find another way to destroy ourselves before our environmental karma gets us. Either way, the more I deal with the general population, the more I welcome the apocalypse...

[fhudsonjr]

What.......are we general?

[Weston]

What.......are we general?

of course not

[CorSport]

... whatever, you know how easy is it for Bush to buy that house simply for PR.

Weak.

Tai

[Evil86Saleen]

... whatever, you know how easy is it for Bush to buy that house simply for PR.

Weak.

Tai

LOL. Now that was a "weak" statement if I ever heard one.

kyle

[ianacole]

... whatever, you know how easy is it for Bush to buy that house simply for PR.

Weak.

Tai

And the owner of "Heinz" couldn't?

[raybob9289]

... whatever, you know how easy is it for Bush to buy that house simply for PR.

Weak.

Tai

Dude,
Its his main residence he's lived there for years. Stop drinkin the coolaid.

Only use one square. Is the earth warmer yet?????

[ianacole]

Only use one square.

http://www.rmcb5.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/roflmao.gif

[CorSport]

^assholes, its called an opinion.

And his brother bought it in 1999 -- its not like bush lived there and bought it himself prior to being a president. Im saying its BS that bush is any "greener".

If you cant see the value (social recognition) Gore and his movie gave us your all retards.

Tai

[CorSport]

is the earth warmer yet?????

... this from a camaro owner. :confused:

[ianacole]

Never mind.

[Evil86Saleen]

... this from a camaro owner. :confused:

Oh my gawd. NOW THAT WAS THE WEAKEST ATTACK I HAVE EVER SEEN.

LOL.

kyle

[Evil86Saleen]

^assholes, its called an opinion.

And his brother bought it in 1999 -- its not like bush lived there and bought it himself prior to being a president. Im saying its BS that bush is any "greener".

If you cant see the value (social recognition) Gore and his movie gave us your all retards.

Tai

Value. What frickin value. Yeah Mr. Gore has a lot of credibility spouting off that crap while he flies around in his corporate jet and takes his own 8 passenger limo everywhere. :rolleyes:

To funny I tell ya. :D

Mr. Gore flying around preaching to everyone that we need to do this and that while the man consumes more energy in a month than the whole city of Littleton in a year.

ha ha. What a crack up.

Hey libs practice what ya preach already. Go hug a tree, use one piece to wipe your ass and leave hard working Americans alone would ya.

later

kyle

[Evil86Saleen]

Ok, here's the plan:

Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.

Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.

Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.

In three generations, there will be no Democrats !!!


Damn; I love it when a plan comes together!

kyle

[CorSport]

Oh my gawd. NOW THAT WAS THE WEAKEST ATTACK I HAVE EVER SEEN.

LOL.

kyle

Whatever, Peace. Your the one thats started it by calling me out (the earth getting warmer jab) because of my opinion that I obviously cant bring up here... so I deleted all my posts.

Tai
CorSport

[Evil86Saleen]

Whatever, Peace. Your the one thats started it by calling me out (the earth getting warmer jab) because of my opinion that I obviously cant bring up here... so I deleted all my posts.

Tai
CorSport

LOL. Wrong dude bud. I never made any "earth getting warmer" coments. :cool: Read the posts agian dude.

kyle

[CorSport]

^word, two camaro owners and one confused poster. my bad.

Tai

[Evil86Saleen]

Some more political humor.

http://www.stampedeusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2464

kyle

[95sprtcpedrvr]

I'm tired of people complaining about this global warming topic, (not pointing to anyone here, just in general) I want to see solutions not more complaints!!!
So they're part of the problem if they aren't contributing to a solution.
You don't see me complaining, I'm complaining about the complainers. :D :rolleyes:


JMO

[ianacole]

Can't wait to see who gets blamed for the poles reversing.

[dfezz12]

^assholes, its called an opinion.



If you cant see the value (social recognition) Gore and his movie gave us your all retards.

Tai

You have got to be on something to believe that crap. It belongs in the fiction section along with Mr Moores fine work. All that "movie" did was grease Gores pockets and pump up his ego. You will see old stiffy take a run at the Dems pick in 2008 riding on his new found fame. Go figure.

[MHISSTC]

Both sides of the climate change debate can offer up good scientific reasoning for their theories. However, right now they are exactly that, theories. We won't know until after it's too late, or when it never happens which side is "right". I suggest each person objectively review the "facts" and make their own conclusion and modify, or not modify their lifestyle accordingly. Practice what you preach goes both ways.

Similarly, I hear a lot of folks bitch about the evil empire that is Wal-Mart. However, Wal-Mart is the second largest local employer in Goodland behind the school district with local annual sales of $11-14 million. With the 7% local sales tax, you can see where a lot of local tax dollars come from. Not all of that is from locals either. There is a lot of Interstate traffic and a big draw from rural Colorado residents...so there is a community influx of money.

Before Wal-Mart came to town, there were more Mom-and-Pop business offering similar goods. However, these businesses were run more as hobbies and were much less efficient than the Wal-Mart empire. If Wal-Mart wasn't here, there would be fewer similar jobs available, wages and benefits would be lower, and grocery and household item selection would be less.

Folks can complain about Wal-Mart all they want, but when it comes time to make a consumer decision and vote with their dollars, most of them just aren't willing to drive 30 miles to buy higher priced groceries, spend 25 more cents for a 12 pack of toilet paper, a $1 more for a case of beer at the local liquor store, $2.00 more for the same piece of hardware that could be bought at the local hardware store, or spend $3.00 more for the same oil changing supplies that could be bought at one of the local parts houses.

That was the smaller picture.

In the bigger picture are we making short term buying decisions, only to effectively drive manufacturing and production outside the U.S. borders, increasing the national trade deficit and driving down wages nationwide? Or, are we finally learning how to stremline and increase the efficiency of American industry that has traditionally been wasteful at the expense of natural resources...including fossil fuels...leading to the production of more CO2 which is contribututing to anthropogenic global warming?

How's that for bringing it full circle?

It also reminds me I need to buy more beer and a new trash can when I go to Wal-Mart today.

:D

[jeffburch]

Take your drivers licence because big brother is now logging your alcohol (and tobacco) consumption via Walmart.

jb

[Bottoz]

Can't wait to see who gets blamed for the poles reversing.

ROFL! We're due... the last one was about 780,000 years ago. :eek: I'm blaming David Hasselhoff. The oscilation of KITT's red thingy has upset the balance of the magnetic polls. I'll prove it by making a Wikipedia entry.

[MHISSTC]

Take your drivers licence because big brother is now logging your alcohol (and tobacco) consumption via Walmart.

jb

...and Sudafed.

The oscilation of KITT's red thingy has upset the balance of the magnetic polls. I'll prove it by making a Wikipedia entry.

:D

[Evil86Saleen]

blah. I'll just call unckle sam and tell him.

Skoal original long cut and Coors.

kyle

[Tommy55]

WOW
I am glad I really Don't give a s#@$. :p

[ker]

WOW
I am glad I really Don't give a s#@$. :p

chicken :D

[Tommy55]

Once you get started on this political BS it's too hard to stop. So I will just mind my own P's and Q's and shut up. It is not worth the energy.

[ker]

Once you get started on this political BS it's too hard to stop. So I will just mind my own P's and Q's and shut up. It is not worth the energy.


i love your pun:D